[BitPim-devel] Phone Detection Status display

[Joe Pham]

Some ideas on the visual indication of the result of phone detection. Comments & suggestions welcome.

-Joe Pham




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[Roger Binns]

Post by Joe Pham
Some ideas on the visual indication of the result of phone detection.
Comments & suggestions welcome.

The colour isn't necessary and makes the UI more garish. If you
want any visual distinction at all, I'd suggest using bold for
successful autodetection, plain for manual and flashing for
broken/unavailable. The latter is about the only time we'd
want to people to actually look at what they are trying to use.

Roger

[Simon C]

Post by Joe Pham
Some ideas on the visual indication of the result of phone
detection. Comments & suggestions welcome.

The coloured status bar for the 'ready' in 9.01 doesn't look very good on
the mac so I'd stay away from more colouring. How about a small icon that
changes based on the status instead?

Simon

[Ira Brickman]

I'm just an end user, with some experience creating GUI's, and I'm form
America (judging from how "colour" is spelled in the two comments, I jusge
you both are not.)

[Stuart Freeman]

Post by Ira Brickman
I'm just an end user, with some experience creating GUI's, and I'm form
America (judging from how "colour" is spelled in the two comments, I jusge
you both are not.)

[[mailto:] On Behalf Of Simon C]

I understand you don't agree, but visually appealing, easily found, graphic
indicators are always of preference over words in a modern world filled with
a plethora visual symbols (let alone a lifetime of ads, television and
movies.)

Ira Brickman


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Post by Joe Pham
Some ideas on the visual indication of the result of phone
detection. Comments & suggestions welcome.

The coloured status bar for the 'ready' in 9.01 doesn't look very good on
the mac so I'd stay away from more colouring. How about a small icon that
changes based on the status instead?

Simon

[Ira Brickman]

I appreciate your concern for the 5% of the population that is color-blind
and for your advocacy of literacy.

Ira Brickman

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Post by Ira Brickman
I'm just an end user, with some experience creating GUI's, and I'm form
America (judging from how "colour" is spelled in the two comments, I jusge
you both are not.)

[Simon C]

Post by Ira Brickman
I'm just an end user, with some experience creating GUI's,
and I'm form America (judging from how "colour" is spelled in
the two comments, I jusge you both are not.)

This is total BS and has no place here. If you want to engage people in this
way find a different forum or even better, go back to your multi-coloured TV
and myopic view of America and trouble no-one.

Simon

[Ira Brickman]

Sorry. You'll here no more from me. Cultural differences as you've taken it
wronly.

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Post by Ira Brickman
I'm just an end user, with some experience creating GUI's,
and I'm form America (judging from how "colour" is spelled in
the two comments, I jusge you both are not.)

This is total BS and has no place here. If you want to engage people in this
way find a different forum or even better, go back to your multi-coloured TV
and myopic view of America and trouble no-one.

Simon

[Paul Jack]

Post by Simon C

Post by Ira Brickman
I'm just an end user, with some experience creating GUI's,
and I'm form America (judging from how "colour" is spelled in
the two comments, I jusge you both are not.)

This is total BS and has no place here. If you want to engage people in

this

Post by Simon C
way find a different forum or even better, go back to your multi-coloured

TV

Post by Simon C
and myopic view of America and trouble no-one.
Simon

I'm a Red/Green Color blind American who has no problem with Colour.
Actually I can see most shades of Red and Green, just not all.

I agree that the red, yellow, green colors were a bit much. Probably just
too
much of the color on the status bar.

What about a Stop Light icon with the red, yellow, green indications next to
the
text?

Paul

[Baltz, Philip]

Post by Paul Jack
I'm a Red/Green Color blind American who has no problem with

Colour.

Post by Paul Jack
Actually I can see most shades of Red and Green, just not all.
I agree that the red, yellow, green colors were a bit much.

Probably just too

Post by Paul Jack
much of the color on the status bar.
What about a Stop Light icon with the red, yellow, green

indications next to the

Post by Paul Jack
text?
Paul

This sounds like a good compromise to me.

-phil

[Joe Pham]

Post by Simon C
The coloured status bar for the 'ready' in 9.01 doesn't look very
good on the mac

Can you post a screen shot of that. I figure red is red, and green is red on either Windows or Mac. I may have been optimistic.

-Joe Pham




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[Simon C]

Post by Joe Pham
Can you post a screen shot of that. I figure red is red, and green is red
on either Windows or Mac. I may have been optimistic.

The colour is OK, the bottom of the ready gets chopped off though.

pdf file attached with screenshot.

Simon

[Roger Binns]

Post by Joe Pham
Can you post a screen shot of that. I figure red is red, and
green is red on either Windows or Mac. I may have been optimistic.

You have been very optimistic. Macs use a different gamma than
Windows. The different display devices also have different gamuts.
Consequently something "subtle" on your screen can turn out very
differently on someone elses. We had fun at work this week when
yellow on a laptop screen turned into green on a projector.
(Ironically the colour was marking the status of items traffic
light style).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_correction
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamut

Roger

[Joe Pham]

Post by Roger Binns
The colour isn't necessary and makes the UI more garish.

I had to look up to find out what "garish" means. For those who are as vocabularily challenged as I, according to Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary:

garish (adj) 3: tastelessly showy

Thanks Roger :-)

Post by Roger Binns
I'd suggest using bold for successful autodetection, plain for
manual and flashing for broken/unavailable.

I'll give that a try. But since the statusbar is fairly small, subtle changes may not be that apparent to users. Another user suggested a stop-light icon next the text, I might try that too.

-Joe Pham




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[Roger Binns]

Post by Joe Pham

Post by Roger Binns
I'd suggest using bold for successful autodetection, plain for
manual and flashing for broken/unavailable.

I'll give that a try. But since the statusbar is fairly small, subtle
changes may not be that apparent to users.

The ideal user interface would be a single button labelled "do what I want"
and the user wouldn't have to press it. BitPim should be working correctly
so there is no need to look in the statusbar. *Everything* other than
the user's data is there because of our failures. I highly recommend
reading this:

http://cooper.com/articles/art_goal_directed_design.htm

Users are in no way concerned with the minutiae of their phone model
and which port it is connected to. That information is only relevant
if BitPim doesn't appear to be working.

Roger

[Simon C]

Post by Joe Pham
Another user suggested a stop-light icon next the text, I
might try that too.

I think that would look better, a virtual LED on the status bar.

The phone selection wizard has a blank space to the right of phone selection
lists, is it there for a reason?

Simon

[Joe Pham]

Post by Simon C
The phone selection wizard has a blank space to the right of phone
selection lists, is it there for a reason?

Not intentionally.

-Joe Pham




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